FLINTA spaces are actually exclusionary!

Flinta spaces

WHAT IS FLINTA?

Author: Mira Iranpour

Flinta spacesFLINTA is a german abbreviation that stands for ‘Women, lesbians, intersex, non-binary, trans, and agender.’ It’s often used to denote spaces excluding cis men. The term initially appeared in German spaces; however, recently both the concept and the term have been rapidly spreading to other countries, in a lot of cases with the mistranslation to “females, lesbians, intersex, non-binary, trans, and agender.“

There are also a lot of spaces that have the same concept but don’t necessarily use this word, In this post, when I say Flinta spaces, I refer to them as well.

why cishet women in, cis queer men out?

There are usually two answers from the people who advocate for flinta spaces.

1. cis men are not safe

The idea that cishet women are inherently safe because they are cis women, however cis queer men aren’t because they are cis men sounds very bioessentialist and ignorant of the complex layers of intersectionality. why a working-class cis gay guy is seen as a potential threat but a rich cis straight woman who centers men in her life is considered a safe option to include?

Trans people have been experiencing a lot of aggressions from cishet women too, the idea that cishet women are safe enough but a cis queer guy is not safe enough for a marginalized space sounds very strange to many trans ears.

Policing who looks like a cis man and cannot enter FLINTA spaces also makes non-passing trans women and transfems, and passing trans men and transmascs as well as gender non-conforming cis women extremely unsafe.

2. Queer spaces are dominated by cis gay men and we need a signifier to say this is not that kind of queer event.

Well including cishet women doesn’t sound like a good plan to create a queer space in the first place. Secondly. while this is true that a lot of queer spaces are dominated by cis gay guys, It’s usually easy to tell even before setting foot there. The people who organize those spaces, the DJs and performers they book, The media used to promote those spaces, the wording everything shouts that they center the space around cis gay guys.

However, there are multiple queer spaces where cis gay men are either in the minority or not present at all, mostly because they have their own spaces and usually won’t go to more inclusive spaces, especially one that is clearly not centering them. It’s fairly easy to have queer spaces that represent the more marginalized bodies of the queer community than cis gay guys, and to do that you don’t need to ban cis guys entirely.

And it’s fairly easy to tell if a queer space belongs to the category of “mostly cis gay guys” or mostly “other queers.”

transfems and “amab” Non-binary exclusion

There has been multiple stories of Flinta spaces being extremely transmisogynistic and exclusive towards transfems and “amab” non-binary people from all over the world.

From FLINTA spaces that require transfems and “amab” non-binary people to prove they are not cis men, to flinta kinky spaces where putting out vagina is ok but if you have a penis, you cannot show your penis, to flinta spaces that deny entry to non-passing transfems and “amab” non-binary people who are not seen as valid because they “look like cis men” or they don’t fit the transphobic “Woman lite” defintion of non-binary held by a lot of vagina-fetishist pseudo-terfs.

You cannot run a FLINTA space whose premise is “cis man = danger” where either the organizers or the attendees won’t police who has the right to be there, who is the “secret” cis man here, and so on.

FLINTA spaces are centered around the stereotype that “women appearing” people of any gender are acceptable and not the perpetrators of violence but that anyone more masculine presenting is. Deciding who is “women appearing” and who is not often times leads to exlclusion of trans women, transfems and “amab” Non-binary people as well as gender non-coforming cis women and passing transmascs.

passing trans men and transmascs exclusion

Passing trans men and transmascs have also reported multiple instances of abuse and being kicked out of FLINTA spaces because they are perceived as cis men. Making a passing trans man or transmasc person have to out themselves as trans in order get entry to a “safe” space seems extremely ironic and contradictory. a Safe space where you have to out yourself as trans to be granted access is not really a safe space.

Passing transmascs who have had both surgeries and even naked look exactly like a cis man can also be scrutnized and humiliated while trying to enter

such spaces.

While it is undeniable that transmascs have different priviledges and experiences than cis men, for a lot of them being percieved as the “lite man”, “quirky women” and “man without danger because used to be girl or is not really man enough” has been unfortunately a common experience in queer spaces which can be even much more reinforced in a FLINTA space. It makes a lot of trans men dysphoric and invalidated to be categorized differently than cis men in spaces like this.

ARE INTERSEX CIS MEN WELCOME OR NOT?

FLINTA spaces are always framed as places with no cis men.

The whole categorization implies that Intersex cis men do not exist! Erasure of Intersex cis men and women has had a lot of negative consequences and needs to stop! If a FLINTA organizer believes Intersex cis men exist, then the question that rises are they welcome? What kind of intersex person is valid in their eyes? There is no way you can decide who gets to come to a FLINTA space and who cannot without clinging into bio-essentialism.

iT’s important to listen to trans voices

A big part of trans and non-binary people have been talking about how FLINTA spaces and the concept of FLINTA itself have been making them feel unsafe and unwelcomed. However, these voices are usually either unheard or ignored.

Of course there are also trans and non-binary people who do not hold a negative view of FLINTA spaces or the concept, however using them as tokens when discussing the safety of these spaces is not a solution, especially when often times those particular trans and non-binary people are the ones who do NOT experience transmisogyny or don’t belong to the groups of non-passing transfems and passing transmascs.

Now that FLINTA spaces are popping up all around the world and the concept is spreading despite the dismfort of a huge part of the trans community, the least that can be done is that this discussion would be brought up for the community, and not just ignored as it has been so far.